Natural Selection P by DILLON BASTAN

Evolve and morph presets of any device or rack of devices in Live

£18.50
Natural Selection P is a groundbreaking sound design tool that evolves presets of any external device or rack in Ableton, treating their parameter values like DNA. By mixing and mutating these values, you can create new sounds and refine them over generations. You play the role of the environment, guiding the evolution of sounds without manually tweaking synth parameters.Key Features:
  • Genetic preset evolution for external devices
  • Morph up to 8 presets with XY quadrants
  • Comprehensive parameter management for external devices
  • 12 versatile presets included

Additional information

MaxforLive

Control Devices

Ableton Live Compatibility

Ableton Live 10 Standard with MaxforLive, Ableton Live 10 Suite, Ableton Live 11 Standard with MaxforLive, Ableton Live 11 Suite, Ableton Live 12 Standard with MaxforLive, Ableton Live 12 Suite

Min. Requirements

Ableton Live 10 Standard with MaxforLive Installed or Ableton Live 10 Suite

OS

Mac, Windows

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Natural Selection P by DILLON BASTAN

Evolve and morph presets of any device or rack of devices in Live

Natural Selection explores an evolutionary process with sound design!
It treats the parameter values of presets as DNA values which are mixed together and mutated over generations to create new sounds.
You play the role of the environment, selecting preferable sounds to continue to pass their DNA to the next generations. And over the generations the sound will evolve closer to your preferences.
Sound design with your sonic intuition, without even touching the synth parameters (unless you want to;))!
There are two versions of Natural Selection. This device, Natural Selection P, can mix and mutate presets of any external device or rack of devices in Ableton to discover new sounds and combinations. Check out the features and videos below to understand more the evolution system!
The other version – Natural Selection S – applies this process to an internal versatile poly synth + rhythm generator + effects system without any limitations!
The design of these devices is by River Marchand
***IMPORTANT*** scroll down to the ‘LIMITATIONS AND CAVEATS OF USING THIS DEVICE’ section to make sure you understand its limitations BEFORE PURCHASING!

NATURAL SELECTION P INCLUDES:

The device, user manual, 12 presets (each of which contain many presets!)

NATURAL SELECTION P FEATURES:

  • Genetic algorithm that treats parameter value presets as a genotypes or ‘DNA’. New ‘child’ presets are created by mixing 2 parents’ parameter values to create new generations of presets (all generations forming a ‘Family Tree’ of presets). Some of the functions included in this system:
    • Mutation amount and two mutation modes
    • Ability to limit the number of generations copulating for a new generation
    • Ability to start a new tree of presets from those of a previoius tree
    • Two modes for adding ‘seed’ presets: (1) current values of the device with optional random spreading (this way you can also load in adv presets and add them as seeds to the tree). (2) Randomized seeds
    • Functions for remixing parent presets DNA to create a new child and for saving the current parameter values into any child’s DNA
    • Rating system to add bias to certain genetics when creating a new generation
    • Two page UI for navigating the various generations and children of presets
  • A section where you can morph up to 8 presets with two XY quadrants and a blend slider between them
  • For this device, the genetic preset system applies to presets of any external device or rack of devices in Ableton
  • A section where you can manage the targeted parameters from the target device(s):
    • Ability to toggle a parameter being included in the genetic preset system or not
    • Ability to scale the value range of any parameter for the genetic preset loading to function within
    • Toggle to automatically filter out problematic paramaters to target such as a ‘Device On’ parameter
    • Functions for selecting or deselecting all parameters for a selected device
  • *** LIMITATIONS AND CAVEATS OF USING THIS DEVICE. VERY IMPORTANT READ ***
    • This device works with external devices parameters. Therefore, it can only work with parameters that are Automatable and Visible. What this means is that the only parameters it (and any device for that matter) can access and set are ones that you can MIDI map and automate and map to macros. So parameters like Wavetable’s waveform selection, or any newer devices modulation matrix, or Operators’ custom partial multislider, etc etc cannot be accessed by this device and therefore can not be included in the child/seed preset creation, mixing and recollection. Additionally and similarly there are big limitations with plugins. The only plugin parameters it can access are the ones that are set visible through the ‘Configure’ process. Ableton only allows up to 127 parameter values in a plugin to be exposed, so Natural Selection P can only collect up to 127 values from presets to use, and of course complex parameters in a plugin that can’t be exposed to Live can’t be used.
    • So this means that if you want to use Natural Selection P to mix entire presets then you won’t be able to do that for cases mentioned above. Now that doesn’t mean you can’t use it at all on those devices, but maybe not in ways of evolving entire presets. For example, maybe you can;t change Wavetable’s modulation matrix at or or selected wavetable waveform. But you could still evolve and mutate a patch that includes other parameters of it, or the macros of a rack it is in, etc.
    • So if you do want to evolve complete entire presets of external devices, you will have to use more basic ones such as Operator, all the OG effects, etc, or plugins that don’t have over 127 parameter values. This is also the reason I made the other device, Natural Selection S, which applies the same evolution process to an internal synth/rhythm generator/FX engine.

ALSO AVAILABLE AS PART OF THE NATURAL SELECTION BUNDLE WHICH ALSO INCLUDES NATURAL SELECTION S

TO INSTALL AND USE PRESETS:

Drop the entire folder called “Natural Selection P” (NOT the folder called “Natural Selection P v.x.x.x”, but the one that is next to this file) into the folder called “ableton/user library/presets/audio effects/max audio effect”. This is found in the “Places” section in Live’s browser or in your finder/file browser. If you are going through finder (mac) the Ableton User Library folder is typically in your “Music” folder. If you are going through your file browser (windows) it is typically in the “My Music” folder.

The full path to the MaxForLive device should be:
“…/ableton/user library/presets/audio effects/max audio effect/Natural Selection P/Natural Selection P.amxd”

IF THERE ARE ISSUES:

Make sure you have the latest version of Live 10/11/12. If that doesn’t resolve things then download the latest version of Max/MSP from cycling74.com (you don’t need a license to download it), then in Live’s preferences, set max to that version and reset Live (if you have an old crack of Live then you will have to add a line in the options.txt text to make that work, google for more info). If you still have issues after that then reach out to me at [email protected].

V1.0 – Released September 2025

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Dillon Bastan is a Los Angeles based sound artist, developer, music producer, and performer. He constructs interactive and intuitive experiences with sound as art, music, or tool. He uses a variety of programming languages, softwares, technologies, and a musical background. His passion for nature and interest in technology pulls him to blend the organic and synthetic.

Dillon draws on experiences from music, traveling, programming, meditation, and construction/carpentry for inspiration and solutions to his projects. He is constantly collaborating, learning, and exploring new possibilities in sound, art, and technology.

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